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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 3:56 am
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Originally Posted by Majuki
But this is the logic of many people. "Oh, I'd rather use the NoS than receive a patdown." Use of the NoS doesn't prevent a patdown. In fact, with ATR, your chances of a patdown are higher than if someone is watching in the peep show room.
No, use of the AIT doesn't prevent a rubdown. But it significantly reduces the possibility. Opting out guarantees a full-body rubdown, whereas chances of a rubdown with AIT are maybe one in three.

Still, I will not let them touch me. Whether I alarm the AIT, or they choose me at "random", I will absolutely, categorically refuse the rubdown.

This is my choice. I am not meekly submitting, and I choose it with my eyes wide open as to the civil rights violation represented by AIT, and the radiation risk posed by MMW. But I will not be sexually assaulted, no matter what.

Originally Posted by MDtR-Chicago
Unfortunately, opting-out is probably the only method of "protest" left. The entire legislative infrastructure has made it clear they don't care. The vast swath of infrequent flyers don't care - even if it's their own family being abused.

The only other hope we have is the court system and it's anyone's guess how corrupt that system is these days.

Last year, when "sheeple" went right on thru the AIT, gleefully showing their surrender, FT was livid, lambasting them for how stupid and cowardly they were for taking the "easy" way out; how eager they were to give up their precious constitutional rights without a fight.

Now, because TSA pinky-swears no one will see an image - so many here are ok with it? For similar reasons as the sheeple would use - it's easier, more expedient, doesn't really matter, etc. ?

I'm not sure what to think. It's almost comical.
I doubt TSAs word that nobody sees the AIT image, and I'm not entirely certain that those on FT who say that the ATR software doesn't even create the image in the first place. Yes, it certainly is possible that it uses the raw scan returns to do its analysis instead of a finished image, but that doesn't mean that the original portion of the code doesn't still create and save the image for the perv in the box, as a backup or a form of resolution. Given TSAs record of spinning things to the point of outright lies, I tend to doubt or disbelieve anything they say these days.

I have always chosen to go through the AIT, despite how disgusting and despicable I found them, because I prefer to be peeped and have my Constitutional rights violated over being sexually assaulted. Perhaps it's my personal hangups, or a form of latent homophobia, but the idea of another man rubbing my entire body and touching my genitals makes my skin crawl far worse than the AIT peepshow. This is my choice, which I make fully informed and with my eyes open. I am not a sheeple who mindlessly accepts the load of fertilizer that the gubment has shoveled about how these civil rights violations are necessary, or legal, or safe; I know they're lying, but for the moment, until the country wakes up and AIT and full-body rubdowns are limited to cases with clear probable cause or articulable suspicion, I will take the AIT option over the rubdown.

So far, I haven't had to cease flying, but I will if they try to sexually assault me.
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