Originally Posted by
Love_Travel
You are free to reject, pretend that we live in a safe world. Those who take the idealist position are selfish and refuse to look at the reality. The reality is we have threats that we need to take seriously
Your question and comment are based on a false premise - two falses premises. First, risk didn't begin on 9/11/2001. Second, I doubt anyone here thinks we live in a "safe world"; everyone here recognizes the risks. Life has all sorts of risks. The question is, how do we most appropriately respond to and attempt to mitigate those risks while maintaining those freedoms upon which this country was founded?
Originally Posted by
Love_Travel
The airport security systems are not going anywhere but here to stay. Just get used it and don't whine.
False dichotomy. The choice isn't "security systems or no security systems". The choice is, "effective and intelligent security systems or security theater".
Originally Posted by
Love_Travel
Be a sensible citizen to appreciate the work of TSA when they do good as well as criticize them if they do wrong.
As a sensible citizen, I appreciate any public servant who performs his/her job competently and professionally. As a sensible citizen who IS a public servant, I take exception to the idea that doing a routine job competently and professionally should be so exceptional that it's especially praiseworthy. I expect public servants (my staff and myself included) do to their routine tasks competently and professionally at all times. They are exceptionally praiseworthy if/when they go above and beyond the routine.
Originally Posted by
Love_Travel
For those few hardcore constitutional individuals who shout civil liberty: You don't have concern about the safety of fellow citizens . . . . .
And how do you reach this conclusion, please? I suppose this is a fundamental difference in values. It seems to me that that secret rules, secret black lists, star-chamber proceedings, the "terrorist behind every bush" mentality, a "papers, please" society - in short, egregious restrictions to the very foundations of a free nation . . . . . it seems to me those things are more dangerous to my fellow citizens, to my children and grandchildren, than are a thousand terrorists with bombs.
~~ Irish