Catman and Dan, you won't get any arguments from me.

And thanks for the even handed spirit in which it was posted Dan.
I have a ladyfriend flying 10,000 miles each way for that weekend who has never heard of FlyerTalk much less the familiar names, and if nothing else out of politeness for her sake will not be seeking anything but a pleasant night, as I hope will all attending in respect to Catman's wishes.
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Glen ~