bernie (head), mizu and I will have a pre-Altbier-testing meeting on the weekend of nov-4/5 and hoepfully just afterwards be able to give detailled infos on this board.

As a rule (may be same kind of a rule that QL uses in his trip-reports about desserts ...), when most participants of a FlyerTalk-meeting have actually to fly before a meeting, they meet at the airport to start with (and to end with).