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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 9:03 am
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BOShappyflyer
 
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Relax. No need to get hostile. I already admitted that I didn't get it, especially in light of the misleading thread title. I've been to Hong Kong a number of times where people try to rush in to the subway stations before letting passengers out, so I'm guessing it's more or less the same. You could be right - maybe there's still a lot I need to know and learn about China.

Having said that, just because it's a "dog-eat-dog" world doesn't justify that it's right. It doesn't justify the behavior or that people should forget what common courtesy is. (i.e. like in the extreme case where a child is run over by a vehicle, and people just walk right by).

Also, I didn't 'imply' that that you have anything to be ashamed or apologize for. I asked explicitly. Certainly, you have nothing ashamed nor to apologized for (since it was the driver's decision that was questionable). But, it's certainly nothing to be thrilled at or write home about because you would be miffing all the same if you were in the other shoe.

Frankly, I have been in that situation before and looked to the other passengers to see if they were OK (but mostly there was a legitimate reason - they're waiting for other parties, too many people or luggage). In case where there is blatant line skipping (to my benefit), I actually point to the passengers to ensure that the driver sees that there are others ahead of me. I'm usually in no huge hurry. If he driver insisted, would I have refused? Probably not, but more often than not, I would wonder why the cab driver does what he did. Like I said, it's nothing to write home about.
I've done enough of international traveling (even where language is a barrier) to know I'd rather wait properly in a queue, then to skip ahead of the locals even though if the service provider assume we tip well as foreigner (which we do, but it is still beside the point).

It's conceivable (even if it seems unlikely in your mind) that the two women before you could have tipped okay too. Even if they don't tip as is the local customs, that doesn't mean they should be passed over by someone who does. The cab service provided you with good service, you should tip him properly. But, skipping other people to help you long before he knew how you were going to tip is not just good service, it's profiling of some sort.

Anyway, I'll leave it as is. It's just a genuine question to think about. No need to get worked up over it. I'm glad your trip works out OK and you made it to your meeting in time.

Originally Posted by jiejie
Hmm, clearly you don't "get it." You have a lot to learn about China, including the fact that "queues" are often more conceptual than actual. It's a dog-eat-dog world, especially trying to get a taxi, and if a break is thrown your way, you take it. I assure you the shoe has been on the other foot plenty of times, and I've been passed by in favor of the Chinese person waiting. That's just how things are here. And especially since the power shift in this Beijing taxi equation seems to have shifted over to the drivers during the last year. If the Chinese women passed over were of a mind to do so, they could have taken down his ID number from the dashboard display, or the license plate number, and complained to his company.

And yes, I felt better at the time getting into that cab, and I felt good when I got out of it too! I've got nothing to be ashamed of or apologize for, which is what you seem to be implying.

What would you have done--refused the taxi and demanded he take the first Chinese woman in line? Tell me true....
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