Originally Posted by
rwoman
You can upgrade on AF from a premium voyageur fare (can be cheaper than DL YBM) to J (Affaires) -- just look for "O" availability on ExpertFlyer or airfrance.us. Be sure to look for the TATL leg separately from the CDG-ATH leg -- IME (LHR-CDG-USA), I can find the "O" availability on the TATL leg, but not intra-Europe....while I'd like J the whole way, the flight across the Pond is my primary concern.

And the difference between PV and J (and even Y for that matter) intra-Europe is not worth sweating for it. Seats are the same (just blocked middle seat), and food/drinks are sort of mediocre. Only the real TATL J product is worth it.