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Old Nov 11, 2011 | 8:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Wollstonecraft
Are you serious? DHS as a whole is known for being an incredibly dysfunctional organization to work for. Have you ever been in a position where you tried to change a government bureaucracy from within? It doesn't work, unless you are a top level political appointee.
Yes, in fact I am now in the process of trying to change a government bureaucracy from within. I am NOT a top political appointee, in fact I am not a political appointee at all. And YES it is very difficult but that doesn't mean that I should just quit. Just think of all the things that would not be accomplished if people just quit when the going got tough.

Originally Posted by 10mmAutoFan
I'm over-qualified and couldn't accept such a drastic pay cut...
Fair enough. People need money to live including TSA employees.

Originally Posted by PhoenixRev
Nothing.

But your comments presume that a person has some obligation to spring into some sort of action after expressing his or her opinion on a subject.

Please cite the rule or statute or constitutional provision that provides such a mandate.
My comments don't presume any such obligation. It was simply an inquiry as to why certain people were not springing into action to act on their convictions. It might not be a popular thing these days with all of the "what's in it for me" attitude displayed by some, but many, many people do act on their convictions. In the process many of them accept lower pay and less than ideal work and living conditions. They do it, I presume (and have read) because they believe it is the right thing to do and don't expect others to do what they will not do themselves. They didn't have a rule or statue or constitutional provision that mandated their action, they did it by choice.

Originally Posted by cardiomd
Did the city bus driver hit you on the way in to work this morning? What's stopping YOU from becoming a bus driver? Spring into action and become a bus driver!

Is your constitutional representative corrupt? Why are you complaining, run for office! I don't see YOUR name in the ballot box!

Did your surgeon botch your surgery? I didn't see YOU become a surgeon. In fact, I didn't see you apply to med school.

I can only assume that the original post is a joke, succumbing to the most base of logical fallacies. I am distinctly NOT calling this trolling, and nothing against the OP though, in accordance with the FT(R) terms of service.
The original post was not a joke nor does it contain a logical fallacy. It was a series of questions. I never said that one could not (or should not) complain without taking action. I simply asked why certain people were not taking action.

Originally Posted by nachtnebel
So, if I am to do my part in opposing child sexual molestation and rape, I must apply for a coaching job at Penn State? What kind of reasoning is that?
No one said you must do anything. It was a series of questions. I am sure that there are many people who are opposed to a wide variety of things and they take no action on any of them.

Originally Posted by 4nsicdoc
I have to ask. Why the screen name of a Delta CRJ flight from Memphis to Cincy?
FlyerTalk requires a screen name to post. What's in a name? That which we call a rose. By any other name would smell as sweet. (W. Shakespeare)
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