May I ask why the YYZ service is considered so bad? Is it because of the supper versus dinner service? The aircraft used? The mid-flight stopover, now at YVR rather than ANC [which means one can at least stay onboard]? With the exception of the midday YVR departure, it appears that all CX's flights ex-NAmerica depart in the very late evening, meaning a truncated initial meal service at a time most of us would rather go to sleep.

Is YYZ equally bad heading ex-HKG?