I'll start it off with my posts under the old thread then I will go back and delete them from there.

Well, Canadian Plus has KenHamer as a member, otherwise Air Canada Aeroplan is better all round.
Seriously, in part it depends on what you want out of a program.

Executive Platinum easier to attain than Super Elite (85K vs 100K)-- ABSOLUTELY TRUE, but last year AC offered me SE for 90K.

Executive Platinum much easier to requalify than Super Elite (75K vs 100K)--ABSOLUTELY TRUE, but we will see how sticky AC is this year.

oneworld currently seems to have better world coverage, although it seems to be a never ending tit-for-tat game--DEPENDS WHERE YOU ARE GOING, I thing this is a dead heat.

CP/oneworld awards generally lower points cost than AC/Star (125,000 will get you anywhere in the world, as opposed to 185,000+ for some Star destinations)--TRUE, I have complained about this--really only affects me going to AFRICA though.

CP relationship with Amex Membership rewards -- transfer 5000 MR points to CP, get 3000 to 10000 points off an award price; 1000 points for buying ticket on Amex; and 1.5 MR/CP points/dollar spent (Amex Platinum or Gold, with points accelarator)-Diner's Club offers an OK deal but I am not really interested in either card now (with foreign exchange fee increase coming). I'll use my VISA Aerogold now.

Friendlier attitude with western oriented CP, as opposed to all business attitude of eastern oriented AC (not so much so at top tier, though)--even split on this one. Both can be OK or NOT. I have experienced nothing but unbelievably good service from AC lately.

Easier to upgrade, although that's a double edged sword -- if CP had more passengers, they would not be in their current financial situation, but upgrades would be harder to come by.--If Shareholder only got 75% of upgrades as Gold, he needs to fly different routes or a different airline. As AC Elite I managed almost 100% upgrades (only missed on last minute standby, always got my upgrades as 48 hr in advance on AC). As SE I have done 100% on domestic and international upgrades at time of booking and showing up at the gate. With no more upgrades for sale, it should be even easier to get upgrades in the future.

Black SWA (anywhere, any fare) upgrade stickers (AC situation has recently changed in this area -- Cliff?)--SuperElites are the clear winners here as we get 8 anywhere any fare stickers on renewal (we hope again in 2000) and 2 more for every 10000 qualifying miles, CP only gives 4 of these and no more through the year. If you do lots of international flying, AC has the edge--As you earn over 10K miles for each international flight, I will have more upgrades than I can use. Overall CP gives more upgrade certificates (but most are domestic) so would be better if you only fly domestically. However, those are 100 hr. booking whereas the SE upgrades that you use domestically are at time of booking. That is a big AC plus. No wondering whether you will get your upgrade, you know right at booking.

I think CP is more generous with upgrade stickers than AC -- let me know if I'm wrong, I'll edit out this point.)--EDIT OUT THIS POINT, depends if you are talking about domestic or international

Seamless integration with AA (whose service in First class has improved dramatically, since oneworld) including lounge access, ticketing, and especially upgrades. (CP members can upgrade on AA as easily as on CP, and as easily as AAdvantage members can on AA.) Much tighter integration than any Star carriers, at least for now. BIG PLUS--if I could use my SE upgrades on UA I would be happier(unfortunately I cannot )

Much better food in business class on CP. Jury is out, we'll see if CP is serving any food by year end

More award partners with CP, especially StarWood, which for me has been superb so far this year.and I think AC has more partners--but I think both suck compared to the US programs

surprised you didn't mention CP's bonuses for Platinum -100% from ground zero, compared to 100% on AC only after 35K each year. This is somewhat offset by the free companion tickets, any fare anywhere in AC's world that are given at 60, 100 and 150K and the fact that (until now) AC gives status and air miles based on cabin seated in not based on fare paid--that is a big plus and has more than offset any CP bonuses for me. If you pay business or first class fares all the time, then CP may be the one for you. If you fly a lot of discount and upgrade, then AC is a winner!

Both very good programs -- but for my international flying I'll still take AC because of the upgrades--we'll see if that still holds for next year.

The one and only BlondeBomber