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Old Jul 26, 2011, 9:25 am
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Originally Posted by Mary2e
Omni posts used to count, until some people decided to create threads and made thousands of posts in "counting" threads. There's more than 1 evangelist made by just counting. While I'm all for fun and games, these type threads should be moved to an Omni Social area where posts don't count that contain only these threads.
We're discussing allowing OMNI posts to count, not counting game threads, lounge threads, or any other kind of thread. Arguments in the form of "We should let OMNI posts count because we let X posts count" are circular and impossible to resolve in the context of a vote on OMNI posts.

Let counting OMNI posts stand or fall on its own merits.

Contributions to Omni-lite (not P/R) are just as valuable as any other post on FT. There are very few places on the internet where you can get good/correct information in a short period of time. Even those people who claim Omni shouldn't exist at all on FT eventually show up there when they need a fast/good answer.
FT is about travel and travel-related issues. By definition, OMNI is OT to this central mission. When I come to FT, I come to provide and benefit from travel and travel-related knowledge. It is entirely irrelevant to me how much FTers know about plumbing, asteriods, which antacid words best, how to breakup with one's significant other, etc.

By the way, there are thousands of boards all over the internet where you can get as you put it "good/correct information in a short period of time" about all kinds of subjects. FT is one of them vis-a-vis travel and travel-related topics. There are plenty of other boards for other things.

Images were allowed in Omni because the TB wanted to make it more like the rest of FT, which allows them. Posts also count in the rest of FT, so why is this even an issue - it's either like the rest of FT or it's not.
See above: Let counting OMNI posts stand or fall on its own merits.

Posts count in Lounge threads and contain far far less good information than Omni. Again, I can think of at least one evangelist that got the title by posting in lounge threads and almost nowhere else on FT, except maybe a contest thread in Community. Why is my post in Omni, which I spent a good deal of time researching and writing, helping another member valued less by the community than someone simply posting a "good morning" in a lounge thread? IMHO, all lounge threads should be moved to the social area mentioned above.
See above: Let counting OMNI posts stand or fall on its own merits.

If we don't want to reward Omni P/R-only posters with titles/post count, do not allow them to count in Omni P/R and remove the posts from their count. The vast majority of those people do not post anywhere else on FT and only go into to FT to troll. Many of them are the reason the Omnis have such a bad reputation.
See above: Let counting OMNI posts stand or fall on its own merits.

It has been said that Omni is one of the most popular forums on FT. If that is the case, why are the people posting there treated like second class citizens?
One of the most popular formus? Perhaps. So okay, let's take a look at the threads in OMNI that make it so popular. Here are the top 10 threads of all time ranked descending by post count:

  • Newest Omni Waste Of Time - Count Down From 100,000
  • Newest OMNI waste of time - count UP to 100,000
  • [merged threads]
  • People Association Thread
  • Food association thread
  • Yankees vs. Red Sox 2007
  • Music association thread
  • Make up a lie about the previous poster...
  • Newest OMNI Waste the times - Count down 500,000
  • The "misunderstand this post and reply" thread

Yes, there are lots of other threads with more substance than these. But frankly they are literally drowing in a sea of drivel. For heaven's sake, there are nearly a hundred threads in OMNI with "waste of time" in the title of the thread itself.

So with all due respect, OMNI may be popular, but as a rule it's not because of the substance.

My vote is a strong no -- do not include OMNI posts in the post count.
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