Hey Rudi, thanks -- 8,000 a segment that's not too bad. Still, seems like I'm being cheated.

Let me ask you another question. I have 0 status with UA. If I didn't upgrade, would they allow me to sit with the annointed. That is, would my business class RTW ticket be deemed a Y type ticket. Or would I be relegate with the ****ed -- those 27 inch pitch seats in the back?