None of this offends me - but you have diminished the joy and excitement I was feeling about my trip by rubbishing my holiday choices in pretty strong language, because you assumed that my options were flexible/changeable, and you didn't try to find out if your assumption was correct before deciding to offer me unasked for advice. If I'm disappointed that the question I sought the answer to - which thanks to PTravel was actually answered at least once - was lost in the 'DON'T GO TO GUILIN!!!!!' responses on this thread, then I would hope you would realise that is a rather human reaction, and a normal response. I understand you tried to help me - I am trying to be grateful - but someone who dismisses my question as being 'narrowly focussed to just suit the OP' kind of misses the point of why I, and many others start threads - strangely, it is to find the answers to the questions we ask, not necessarily to find the answers to the questions we don't ask.

I'm sure others may find this thread useful - sadly, it's utilty to me, as the person who actually started the thread to find out experiences of tours in and around Guilin, has been limited to the most basic answer I could wish for. We know that we are better to get them there now. And that's about it. Oh yes, and our holiday choice is rubbish, it's the worst place in all of China (althuogh I retain optimism it will be better than Shenzen, which you would have to pay me quite a large sum of money to return to) and we're going to hate it