True.. i'm based in Sf and travel to Asia often. I like Singapore as part of the star alliance but UA increased their redemption milage to asia as of June 15 I think. So economy costs somethign like 65k, J is like 120k and F is like 140k. I guess it's not a bad deal between J and F. Whereas AA on CX costs 50k for Y, 100k for J and 135k for F if I recall correctly. I heard of the 150k around the world in J class with AA, but the best info I could find on AA website is that it's only up to a certain amount of miles. Hm.. might not be a bad deal anyway.