I know I shouldn't... but... *ehem*...
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...ad.main/27128/
To be fair, a lot of the threads in the civil aviation forum are interesting and informative... but stay out of the "misc" one.

--->Zanadou
(Reregistrating after all this time...)
[This message has been edited by Zanadou (edited 12-14-2000).]