You said:
Originally Posted by
Affection
Refusing to present ID is never a crime.
I replied
Originally Posted by
stifle
It can be in certain states/countries, or for certain classes of people in certain states and countries. Arizona, Indiana, and Ohio would be examples.
And then:
Originally Posted by
Affection
No, it can't. You can add Florida and New York to your list of states that have statutes requiring you to be in possession of an ID card, however all of these statutes have been invalidated by the US Supreme Court. No US citizen may ever be forced to present ID while anywhere in the US. Ever.
I'll yield to your superior knowledge of US law, but I stand by my calling you out on your message. Your reply post limited it to US citizens in the USA, which may be true (I don't know). Your original post was
Originally Posted by
Affection
Refusing to present ID is never a crime.
which is demonstrably false (counterexamples including aliens in many US states, everyone in Germany).
America is not the world.