Originally Posted by
TSORon
All of that is absolutely correct. Humans and just that, human.
But if we take as a given that some form of checkpoint security is required at airports, how do we do such a thing without humans being involved?
It cant be done. Lets be honest, it just cant be. So, we do the best we can. The folks here spend hours second guessing that every day, mostly from ignorance. As I have attempted to show, security is a very complicated business, and few without experience or training can discuss the subject intelligently. The argument about dogs is just one case in point, some here claim that they are the answer to the TSA and all of our procedures and equipment, and they make these arguments completely from ignornace about the subject.
Because the threat comes in so many forms, and from so many different directions, the only intelligent way to address the threat is with a comprehensive and layered approach. Thats a basic idea, the very first one that must be acknowledged before the conversation can go any further.
I understand what you are saying, but it isn't the human factor that is the problem. It isn't having security at the airport that is the problem. It is the fact that a policy has been put in place where the passengers can be mistreated and those who are in charge don't seem to care.
I'm not picking on you. So don't think I am. But when the new screening requires the hand of a total stranger to be ran up ones inner thighs until that hand meets resistance and stuck in the waistband of pants and skirts and breast be touched. Some of us don't like that we are being forced into a situation where we are having to submit to something that from a small child we have been told that we don't let strangers do. It doesn't matter how nice the TSA screener is. It doesn't matter if if they are following SOP and doing everything correctly.
Pistole and Napolitano put this in place and what most don't get is that when you walk into that airport and get into the line at the security check point.
The fear of the unknown takes over and the fact that Pistole and Napolitano decided that the passengers should not be allowed to know what is going to happen to them is a big mistake. It makes it a stressful situation that can cause problems when suddenly you have a TSA screener who has a attitude and a passenger who is stressed and it turns into an incident.
If there was more openess and honesty from the higher ups who implemented these new policies when it comes to screening the passengers and they would treat us as human beings instead of objects that have no feelings.
You all might find that we aren't as crazy as some make us out to be. It is just that we don't like the attitude that TSA/DHS seems to have of we can do what ever we want to you, but we don't have to tell you what we are going to do to you and if you don't like it well we don't care.
Would you or your wife go to or take you child to a doctor or a hospital for a procedure. If the doctor or the hospital had secret rules where procedures were considered SSI and they wasn't willing to tell you what they were going to do to you, or your child before they actually started the procedure. Would you be that trusting to go along with that situation without thinking those are some creepy rules and thinking that the information should be available before the procedure gets started not when they are about to do it to you, your wife, or child.
Because that is what we are being asked to do when we go to the airport to fly on a plane. We are suppose to just trust everything that is being done to us without question because Pistole and Napolitano have decided that this is what they have come up with to keep the bomb and other dangerous items off the plane. But we weren't allowed to have any say in the decision they made about the things the screeners were going to be allowed to do to us, because they did it in secret and they don't understand why we are having problems with these new procedures.
I will say this... The we can't tell you because the terrorist will beat the system is ridiculous to me. Because if and when the terrorist decides to beat the system. All they have to do is pay someone, alot of money or threaten someones family, who is allowed to by pass security because they are someone who is exempt from being screened. Because they are considered so high up that they are considered totally trust worthy simply because of who they are.
But would they be so trust worthy if someone was holding a gun to their wife and children's head and told their family would be dead if they didn't get the bomb on the plane.
If everyone and every thing isn't being screened the exact same way the passengers are being screened. The back door is standing wide open. So saying that what they are doing to us is going to keep the bomb off the plane. Isn't going to be successful when a terrorist decides to slip through the back door with the flashing big neon sign that says Terrorist Enter Here.
They either screen everything that gets near or on the plane up to its resistance, in it's pants etc, or they need to back off just abit on the passengers.