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Originally Posted by JHIN
Using the KVS tool for award space in 2012 and I keep seeing it pop up with F class seats - admittedly this is not when searching that direct route but only if using connections whether the connections are domestic or international - so I'm assuming it's a not true or did something change with QF flights on this route? Thx
Originally Posted by 3544quebec
Or to put it a different way if you were searching SYD-STL it might return availability in F on the following routing SYD-DFW-STL even though the SYD-DFW segment is only available in Business but the DFW-STL in First
That is correct. As mentioned in the KVS Tool User Guide for the [Awards/OneWorld] Method (http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Method_Amadeus_Awards_OneWorld):
Note: When searching for premium cabin awards (Premium Economy/Business/First), always check availability segment-by-segment, when using this Method. Otherwise, premium cabin availability may be indicated, when it only exists on some, but not all sub-segments. Alternatively, use the [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Method, which shows Award/Upgrade Availability on a per-segment basis.
For example:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP1]
Code:
DFW  Dallas Metro / Dallas/Fort Worth TX US = DFW DAL [KDFW]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
THU  01 Mar 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------------
AA         2489    DFW   20:25     LAX   21:55     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2  744
AA         2477    DFW   19:00     LAX   20:20     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2  388
AA         2479    DFW   19:45     LAX   21:15     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2  744
AA         2473    DFW   18:20     LAX   19:35     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2  388
AA         2477    DFW   19:00     LAX   20:20     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2  744
AA         2473    DFW   18:20     LAX   19:35     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2  744
AA         2459    DFW   16:50     LAX   18:15     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2  388
AA         2457    DFW   15:55     LAX   17:15     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2  388
AA         2459    DFW   16:50     LAX   18:15     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2  744
AA         2455    DFW   15:40     LAX   17:00     738      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2  388
AA         2453    DFW   15:00     LAX   16:25     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2  388
AA         2457    DFW   15:55     LAX   17:15     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2  744
AA         2455    DFW   15:40     LAX   17:00     738      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2  744
AA         2445    DFW   14:25     LAX   15:55     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2  388
AA         2453    DFW   15:00     LAX   16:25     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2  744
AA         61      DFW   12:45     NRT   17:10 +1  777      FS+  CS+  WS/  YS-
 -> QF     22      NRT   20:00 +1  SYD   07:35 +2  744
AA         2433    DFW   13:25     LAX   14:50     757      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2  388
AA         2445    DFW   14:25     LAX   15:55     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2  744
AA         728     DFW   11:50     LGA   16:15     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     JFK   18:30     SYD   09:25 +2  332
AA         175     DFW   09:45     NRT   14:05 +1  777      FS+  CS+  WS+  YS-
 -> QF     22      NRT   20:00 +1  SYD   07:35 +2  744
AA         720     DFW   11:10     LGA   15:35     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     JFK   18:30     SYD   09:25 +2  332
AA         712     DFW   10:10     LGA   14:35     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     JFK   18:30     SYD   09:25 +2  332
AA         400     DFW   10:00     JFK   14:30     738      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     JFK   18:30     SYD   09:25 +2  332
AA         710     DFW   09:10     LGA   13:30     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     JFK   18:30     SYD   09:25 +2  332
AA         708     DFW   08:00     LGA   12:25     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     JFK   18:30     SYD   09:25 +2  332
AA         704     DFW   07:25     LGA   11:50     M80      FS+  CS-  WS/  YS+
 -> QF     108     JFK   18:30     SYD   09:25 +2  332
[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:
DFW  Dallas Metro / Dallas/Fort Worth TX US = DFW DAL [KDFW]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
THU  01 Mar 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
AA         2489    DFW   20:25     LAX   21:55              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2           YS1
AA         2477    DFW   19:00     LAX   20:20              FS2  YS7
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2           YS3
AA         2479    DFW   19:45     LAX   21:15              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2           YS1
AA         2473    DFW   18:20     LAX   19:35              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2           YS3
AA         2477    DFW   19:00     LAX   20:20              FS2  YS7
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2           YS1
AA         2473    DFW   18:20     LAX   19:35              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2           YS1
AA         2459    DFW   16:50     LAX   18:15              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2           YS3
AA         2457    DFW   15:55     LAX   17:15              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2           YS3
AA         2459    DFW   16:50     LAX   18:15              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2           YS1
AA         2455    DFW   15:40     LAX   17:00              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2           YS3
AA         2453    DFW   15:00     LAX   16:25              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2           YS3
AA         2457    DFW   15:55     LAX   17:15              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2           YS1
AA         2455    DFW   15:40     LAX   17:00              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2           YS1
AA         2445    DFW   14:25     LAX   15:55              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2           YS3
AA         2453    DFW   15:00     LAX   16:25              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2           YS1
AA         2433    DFW   13:25     LAX   14:50              FS4  YS7
 -> QF     12      LAX   22:25     SYD   08:25 +2           YS3
AA         2445    DFW   14:25     LAX   15:55              FS3  YS7
 -> QF     108     LAX   23:50     SYD   09:25 +2           YS1
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