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Well I finished packing for London. A RedOxx Metro with computer and stuff and a leather satchel with clothes. Each weigh about 12 pounds on the handy luggage scale. I'm curious to see how it works out. Both are under packed. First time I have used the satchel/duffel. I bought it out of some guys trunk a few years ago for like $30. Seems like nice leather. Completely unsupported, with no hard base, but a few pockets.