SHADO - I'm glad you are happy with the basic crappy breakfast that you have to beat most Hilton's up to even recieve. I know this, as I was there for a few years and once thought it was a great thing. Then one day I realized that I had all these HH points that I earned from the massive amounts of business-paid travel I was doing, and wanted to redeem them on some vacations. I found this next to impossible to do, so I jumped ship for Starwood after hearing all of the positive things on this board about the program. It was the best decision I ever made. Actually being able to redeem my points for stays when I wanted to (what a concept!), favorably transfer them to airlines, and having the resources of William here are worth more than anything to me. No need to be abrasive and attack him man! I'm glad you like HH - I've had my fill thanks.