Originally Posted by
nachtnebel
The reality of the situation is that you are strip searching the American public. That has never been dared before in the history of the republic. It is specifically forbidden in the Constitution that used to govern the outfit you work for.
Actually no, we are not. People are not allowed to strip naked at TSA checkpoints. Take coats off, shoes, yes, but not strip. The whole idea that we do otherwise is a complete lie, hyperbole. The searches we do are administrative in nature, and completely supported by the laws of our nation. At least until such time as they change those laws, which has not happened yet. Any other understanding of the situation is false. I have provided more than enough proof of this.
Originally Posted by
nachtnebel
The reality of the situation is that you are feeling up the sex organs, buttocks, hair, and whatever else you please, of the American public, likewise in violation of custom, expected freedoms, and the explicit words of the 4th Amendment.
Your version of reality has absolutely nothing to do with the facts. I have never touched anyone’s sex organs on the checkpoint. Nor have I touched anyone’s hair. But then again I search males, and they tend to have shorter hair.
It also seems that your understanding of the fourth amendment is a bit lacking. In another thread I posted quite a number of court cases that directly address this issue. Please take a few moments to find that post and read about the fourth amendment and how it applies to the TSA and its administrative searches. It’s an interesting read. Somehow I doubt you will, but I have pointed you in the right direction and therefore have met my obligation as an educator.
Originally Posted by
nachtnebel
The reality of the situation is that we are told to submit, "soldier on", whereas a healthier reaction would be to run y'all through with bayonets.
There is no inevitability about this. There is no need to accept it. It cannot be accepted because it is unjust and violates the human person so deeply. You just want us to quietly comply, to go take our place up at the lip of the pit when it is our turn. the h*ll with that.
And here is the problem, you provide a very clear example. You are putting your belief’s in place of the facts and saying that your belief’s are the truth. Believe what you like, it’s not like I can change your mind, but don’t expect me to allow falsehoods such as you seem to support and indeed seem to believe, go without challenge.
Originally Posted by
RATM
You're not my #%@&ing sergeant.
Never said I was. I understand that there are some comprehension issues out there but you seem like fairly bright person. The analogy was quite appropriate, so find some other thing to pontificate about.
