with regards to tipping, i'd say I am more of a chintzy tipper than a good/generous tipper

typically in that 13-15% range for avg to above avg service

real good service might be 18% which is probably as high as I'd ever ever go

on that note

this thread makes me want to tip even less

1. I have no desire to have my tip to the server spread out.. its still my money at this point hence I don't want to give it out

2. its not my problem how they are paid, its not my problem that a server has chosen that profession but somehow they did

3. i don't buy the it costs me money if I don't tip.. maybe if you have one customer and that one tips you zero.. even then, there are ways around paying taxes

4. maybe its just a few people on this thread but this hand always out appearance just rubs me the wrong way

5. tipping is one of the major reasons I do not eat out if I don't have too

6. why I eat at the bar.. I don't tip as much there either..

changing the subject to hotels

while I'm at it.. I hate the hands out FS hotels.. every time you turn around, someone wants a five spot.. I've used a bellman once in the last 10+ years just b/c I hate the tipping.. room service.. the prices are high enough then you pay 18% to have them wheel it up to your room and the add a $X service charge.. I don't think so.. an all of this is when I'm not paying for it.. I just hate the whole concept of it so I just try to participate as little as possible by eating at places where I don't have to tip