Originally Posted by
SnallaBolaget
Okay... First of all, there's a very, very strong emphasis on sex around here. That's not a good thing. There was no mention of sex or molestation in my question, but if you want to state that this is one thing you do not want in an airport security CP, then okay... Got it.
Second, why would you assume such a thing would happen, and why would it only happen to a girl, for that matter? There are a number of other scenarios that are a thousand times more likely, such as theft.
Third, if you have some kind of grudge against LEOs, then this probably isn't the place to vent your frustrations...your aunt or your neighbor is just as likely to be a child molester as any given LEO or TSO.
That said, you do make one point that is absolutely correct in every possible way. Respect (something that does go both ways, incidentally) and openness when it comes to procedures and regulations. Those are non-negotiable. Airport security should be modeled on open source. Sure there's going to be loopholes, and sure, someone will find them, but it's a lot more likely, in an open source model, that that someone will want to fix it rather than exploit it.
Trust has to be earned, and airport security has lost most of its public trust, but it can still be reclaimed.
-SB-
Because it has been proven time and time again that when you put people into jobs with unlimited power over other people with no check and balances in place to keep the public from being abused by those people where secrecy is involved bad things happen. Particularly when the people are told that the procedures are secret. The TSA does not want to change that policy of keeping things from the public. They keep saying it is for security to keep the terrorist guessing. But the terrorist are a step ahead of the TSA and if they don't believe that then Pistole and Napalitano are both stupid.
Trust won't be reclamed if the following things keep happen. There is the TSA Agent who was caught and charged for having child porn. There are other TSA Agents just like that one who are patting down children. They just haven't been caught doing the criminal activity yet.
There is the TSA Agent charged with kidnapping a female co-worker from the airport and taking her back to his house and raping her. At some point and time I see that happening to a passenger who is taken for a private screening in a back room if there are no security cameras to monitor who is going and coming and to be certain a passenger isn't just taken out of the airport.
There is the TSA Agents who steal things out of the passengers luggage. If things can be stolen out of the luggage by TSA Agents. Then things can be put into the luggage by the TSA Agents.
Then there is this one. The mother with the breast milk who was held and threatened she would be arrested because she pointed out that TSA Agents weren't following the rules when it came to screening breast milk.
As for a sex crimes being committed only against a girl and not a woman, a man, a boy. That was not what I meant. I only used a girl as an example. But you wanted to bring up this about the strong emphasis on sex around here. Well I just want to know something. When did sexual abuse and rape become about sex? That is not sex! That is about power and control and making the victim submit to being humiliated and feeling worthless.
Alot of people feel that way on here because they have been touched against there will. You want to fly on the plane to get to a parent or a child who is about to die and the plane is the only way to get there fast. Then you have to submit to that up close and really personal touch feely search and because of that they feel like they are being forced to submit to something that is to them sexually abusive and humiliating to get on a plane.
You could not go into a bar, a movie theater or a shopping center and touch someone the way the TSA Agents are allowed to touch passengers to get on a plane. If you did you would get arrested and be charged with sexual assault. The TSA Agents seem to be protected from being charged even if they do something inappropriate to the passanger.
When it comes to real law enforcement. They aren't suppose to do those types of patdowns without some reasonable probable cause as to there actually being a real threat on the person and usually the suspect is being arrested and taken into custody when that search is done.
The only cause for that search at the airport is simply you bought a airplane ticket. When did buying a airplane ticket become proof that everyone who wants to fly on the plane is suddenly a threat and has dangerous weapons concealed on them which makes them require a prison type search before they can get on the plane? If there is actual evidence that the person is going to commit a crime. I say then yes a search is warranted for that passenger. But treating everyone like a criminal and keeping the search procedure secret is not going to get the co-operation from the passengers that the TSA wants and it makes the passengers not trust the TSA at all.
The TSA likes having the power over the people and I just don't see them changing that. If you listen to Pistole and Napalitano talk in interviews that would be clear. Especially when they make comments that are basically telling the passengers that we have the power to do what we want to do to you and if you don't like it then don't fly.