Originally Posted by
FlyingHoustonian
What are you talking about? The government is not shut down. Nothing released is Top Secret. Very little is surprising, minus some Pakistan and Saudi comments. You are believing the hype without looking at the substance.
Ciao,
FH
Nothing about Pakistan and Saudi Arabia in the released documents is a surprise -- it just reconfirms knowledge that was already acquired and that the government still has an eager habit of classifying documents as secret and otherwise when it's really not a secret of any sort.
The government's obsession with gathering frequent flyer numbers and bank card info of foreign contacts should be rather telling to those US persons who are not yet aware of why the government wants all of our PNR info too.
Originally Posted by
sbagdon
And this gap between your publishing resources and your submissions is why the site’s submission function has been down since October?
We have too much.
So much stuff is coming in, they can't keep the submission servers up. OK, the quality is invert tot he quantity, yet still... that's a lot of data.
That's not the only reason Wikileaks' servers are having problems.
I'm not sure the quality of their acquired material is invert to the quantity -- as there's a lot of junk produced and stored by government employees too that would invite the same characterization. I'm sure that Wikileaks isn't above being used -- wittingly or otherwise -- by interested parties wanting to try to manipulate public perception. Whether that being used part involves being fed accurate leaks or planted misinformation, well that's an issue government employees face too when dealing with acquired material.
This whole situation is much ado about nothing (although it goes to show how government cannot be trusted to secure information from leaks), save the part of some loonies in Congress wanting to declare Wikileaks a "terrorist" organization and of various government-paid parties engaging in all sorts of sleazy activity in order to try to punish its founder regardless of the rule of law.
Originally Posted by
standupforrights
Did Hillary Clinton make an "about face" just two weeks ago and say she was not interested in running for the presidency?
Did she then take on TSA on the Sunday talk shows?
Is the US government in all-out diplomatic recovery mode right now over these leaks?
Is the US government conducting Cyber warfare on the Wikileaks site right now so that the rest of the information doesn't get out?
Yes to all of the above - and at least as of yesterday the guy is still alive. And apparently if he's dead, the information is even more revealing...
In the age of the internet the power is taken away from the liars and the schemers.
Hillary Clinton is in the process of distancing herself from, as she puts it, "the Obama Administration". That's relatively unusual language for a sitting US Secretary of State to use when referring to the US Government while in the Cabinet and talking about the Government's position on a foreign policy-related matter.
If only she would come around to admitting that electronic data traffic (e.g., emails and instant messages) routed across border (whether due to the sender or government requests of communication service providers) is being monitored without a warrant and being used for fishing expeditions at home and abroad that trap US citizens.