here we go again...

First Oz, I can speak for one flame war Camera Guy was not in...the one that started after you attacked an EBayer for doing what you do yourself...barter or sell UA certs (and remember OZ UA executive offices define barter AND sale as the SAME thing, against the rules, and the specifically said it was barter as you proposed in coupon connection). You attacked someone for the thing you were doing at the same instant. I came after you on that one, and will do so again.

Second, you mention no one coming to support Camera Guy, okay, I'll throw my name on the pile of supporters.

I also recall last year someone else, can't recall the username, who had a thread specifically about support in the face of your attacks. It had plenty of responses.

Oz, you've become even more shrill and abusive than previously...excepting the swear words your right there with Mileage God or whatever his name was of last summer.

I might also add to the commentary on your past 'professions" in that while you may or may not have used the word 'producer' the gist of the arguement that you claimed to be 'connected' in the record business holds as does the larger issue of big claims about your life being so frequent as to call all of them into question. Although saying you are not a world traveller is the weakest of these claims against you, taken in the context of your documented penchant for self-glorification through falsehood (aliases who did that) and the total picture of all the amazing things you claim to have done, it becomes a natural to challenge anything you say because your credibility is zilch.

Interestingly, I recall, but cannot prove and thus do not 'claim' only claim to recall, that you said you were a private investigator. This is really a laugh because I can recall occasions when your power of observation was nil. I mention here only the last attack on an EBayer where you claimed they had posted a pic of the cert itself complete with PNR. My first reaction to that pic was...it's too professional to be home made...it just has that glossy/perfect feel of someone who took hours to photgraph a ticket. Then, when someone pointed out that was possible, you attacked them, claiming it HAD to be a real picture of the cert for sale. Then, someone pointed you directly to where the pic had been 'borrowed'....oops!...change tack, move the attack to a different topic in classic Oz fashion.

Why, if these important flyertalkers are so supportive and so important, why won't they come forward? You have a lot of 'well placed' friends who never show their face. Given your history, you can understand my skepticism.

The best you've managed in terms of so-called support are those who have called for 'peace in our time' such as punki and doc, both reasonable people, but their statements are not in support of you Oz, only that they would rather not see what is going on continue.

Now, of course, we could get into your usefulness here. I would say, in a small way, you have contributed. However, even only in terms of FF programs, you've done more damage than good. An example of that would be the Hilton/Frequenta 'event' Now, many people did pick up bonuses, some even got them through before the opportunity was gone. Now, what about the thousands of everday Frequenta members who now cannot transfer bonus miles to Hilton, simply because a little greed play forced either or or both Hilton and Frequenta to change the program? Remember, the comment that came with the change use the word 'protect'. It is quite clear to me they felt they were being damaged by the activity generated here. The same can be said for changing your preferences with Hilton, also now gone due to abuse, 8 times per year, not because your preferences change and the company wants to show appreciation for your letting them know with a small reward, but because you want the points at any cost. I have said it before, I say it again, clearly and loudly (and as my opinion only) that you are a destructive force in FF-land. Combined with the venue of FT your greed is scorching the earth of FF programs. This line of thought ties in nicely with the 'should I post it on flyertalk threads' that you have also managed to poison with your presence. Your presence has become poisonous by it's mere existence now because of the totality of your history here as well as your current behavior. I keep recalling the Saturday Night Live skit about 'The guest who would not leave'... you have worn out your welcome here in my opinion, find a new BB to infest.

I close with a favorite chaistic quote of mine, it describes us all of course, to a point, the last two lines define you Oz...

No one means all he says,
and yet very few say all they mean,
for words are slippery
and thought is viscous." Henry Adams