Originally Posted by
stencil
What do you mean by "international based carrier?" I've flown JAL, AF, Malev, ANA and others in J and they really weren't anything worth writing home about. DL's J was at least on par.
If you're talking about people who "look" like they're non-revs sitting in the same cabin as you, well, I think you might need to get over yourself. No offense intended.
If you're saying they're ACTING offensive, then you have every right to complain. That said, I was on an ANA flight a year ago in J, and there was a (I assume) Japanese salaryman who had the worst attitude, was disrespectful to the FAs, and was annoying and loud. Does he get a pass because he (or his business) paid for the seat?
Ugh. Why did I get involved?
Any international legacy (SQ, CX, ANA, BA, etc); we are not discussing quality of the hard product so I will leave that out of it.
The dress irritates me but not enough to actually say anything about it; if people want to be seen in public like that, that is there prerogative, it is not any of my business. But honestly the large, un-showered, safari outfitted, T. Bahama shirt wearing nonrevs on my ATL-BOM and ATL-JNB flights were substantially worse (though still, I said nothing), especially cause their smell had a way of wafting through the whole cabin, as though a reminder that they had not showered in a while and had been running between flights all day. The safari gear clearly had to be kept on the whole flight and not applied nearing arrival into JNB as a reminder to EVERYONE that they are going on Safari for a week
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Its the Non-rev parties that bother me the most. When the FA's stand in front of a couple and talk for 20 minutes in an otherwise dark and quiet cabin discussing company policy, when the service suffers because of it, when the non-rev sitting next to you takes your meal choice because the FA looks at you in casual dress and assumes that you are also a non-rev (has happened twice, this I will not get started on!). Whether you want to admit it or not, a quiet, not completely filled Business cabin is a very common thing outside the US based airlines and it is very, very nice. Its as much an "unpublished perk" as allowing non-revs into BE in the first place. Sure, I have had my occasional filled J cabins on SQ, CX, etc, especially on TPACs, but more often then not the cabin will remain 60% or so full, it will be very quiet, more personal attention from the FAs, the seat next to me may remain open (a bonus, but I am certainly not entitled to it), and there aren't non-revs. The entire experience is much more exclusive, lucrative, and as I said, I will always vote for it with my $$.
Originally Posted by
hazelrah
So international J is priced high, is not used to ensure any customer loyalty, but instead is used as an undefined employee benefit further degrading its product. I'm not a Delta shareholder but were I I would find this model to be of some concern.
Exactly.