Originally Posted by
SkiAdcock
When I hear 'a lot' w/o descriptions then I prefer someone detail what the 'lot' is, so that others can make informed decisions on where to make their stays. So please - do 'go on & on'. You will be helping your fellow FTers.
i've helped my fellow fters by giving them a few examples....now you can help your fellow fters by not asking the same questions that have been asked before....
Originally Posted by
SkiAdcock
When I hear a 'lot', I expect a lot to be numerous - not just 1-3 programs that again have already been mentioned as not closing out accounts, even if they say they may do so in their T&C. Specifically, what other chains are you referring to that you know definitively are deleting accounts after a year?
hilton, marriott, spg & hyatt are 4 programs & by my definition that is 'a lot'....there are lots of airline programs that do so as well....try doing a search on the t&c of different programs & you will get your answer....
i agree some chains may not delete your account (even though the t&c claims that they will) but you cannot turn around & cry foul if they do....
Originally Posted by
SkiAdcock
Given more folk have mentioned that their accounts have been deactivated by Hilton than the other programs, I'd say your father is lucky. And good for him!
it doesn't make a difference to him actually....he has never stayed at a hilton....i signed him up for a potential stay that never took place....after that he never stayed with them....
Originally Posted by
SkiAdcock
But I'm still more interested in what the 'lot' of hotel chains is that you mention definitely close accounts and look forward to you sharing that with us FTers, so that we know which chains to avoid.
now, since you are arguing just for the sake of arguing, i'm going to let you do a little research & give you a chance to help your fellow fters....i've given 4 chains that do....how about you give us a few t&c which don't mention the 'closing' of accounts????
& please note, i never said 'hotel chains', i said 'programs' which include hotel & airlines....
Originally Posted by
SkiAdcock
We already know that *wood, Hyatt & PC don't, so even if folk may lose their points they can blow the dust off their accounts & book w/o having to create new accounts. If you know of 'tons of folk' who have had their accounts deleted, we'd be interested in that as well. Just curious - how do you go about quantifying 'tons'? A bit confused on that one.
i'm going to quote you here....bold emphasis mine....
Given more folk have mentioned that their accounts have been deactivated by Hilton than the other programs
if
more folk have mentioned their accounts have been closed by hilton then that means that
some folks have mentioned their account being closed by other chains....if that were not the case then you would not have used the word 'more'....
so that is where the 'tons of people' come from....
Originally Posted by
SkiAdcock
Obviously the bottom line is that w/ Hilton you'll definitely have your points yanked & there's a pretty good chance you'll get your account deleted.
i agree....it sucks & i don't agree with this policy but it is the way it is....
Originally Posted by
SkiAdcock
Which may mean that in the next year or so that the paperweight w/ my account # that Hilton sent me on some big anniversary it had will be worthless because the account # won't be valid. Of course the
Lifetime Platinum status that Marriott gave me on its same anniversary will still be valid
you can still use it as a paperweight....no one stopping you from doing that....
Originally Posted by
SkiAdcock
BTW - I do agree w/ you that folk should sign up for every single program when traveling if they think they'll stay there occasionally, but as we all can agree on I think, it make more sense to focus on just a few.
of course....i have never claimed otherwise....
all jokes apart, here is the deal....i agree that it is stupid to close the account....i agree that most other chains usually won't close your account even though their t&c claim that they do....i agree hilton does it more often than others....but at the end of the day, they are simply following the rules of their program....rules that we agreed to abide by if we want to be part of their programs....
a person who doesn't stay or fly with a program for over a year is obviously someone who is not using their account often....the way i look at it, hilton obviously feels they have a good reason to close these accounts....good for them....they may lose some business due to this but that's their headache....