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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 4:49 pm
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Randy Petersen
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Pretty demanding today aren't you? I'll take the time to answer your questions, only if you also take the time to listen -- and remember, listening is best done when you are not talking.

Let's look at the facts -- you posted this message or variations of it three time, see the links below at the bottom of this reply. That alone would likely find you being reported by other members. Clearly, you don't need to talk (post) over yourself, once is enough and BTW, it's really not considered cool by any means to be ripping on the Mods, especially when there's a little bit of responsibility to go around.

Fact is, it looks like upon further view that the Moderator was imply acting on the advise of your fellow members of FlyerTalk that determined your post was really a repeat of other information, that it was not as unique as you have thought. Proof of this is in the post:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hotel...l#post14867386

Yesterday, a member posted a link to hotels deals in the Caribbean and Mexico and in the thread title was 10-10-10. That was posted at 2:11 yesterday. At 3:57 yesterday, another member commented on the other members links to Marriott and then, like you mentioned and then posted a link to a Atlanta Journal article, the very same Atlanta Journal article that you posted today at 9:12 a.m.

Understand the chronicle here? You posted something that was already posted and in fact, another member even pointed that out to you in your post. What happened was that other members of FlyerTalk reported to the Moderator that your thread, was dupe of existing information already posted. The Moderator took a quick look, saw that the link from a day earlier to the Atlanta Journal was the same was the same as you posted today and deleted your thread. The Moderator then went back to a meeting and other business they had going in closing out their work week. While I did not find out yet if the Moderator had plans later on to let you know that they had deleted your post/thread, trying to make this solely a tirade against a Moderator is certainly not fair.

Your whole case is that the thread title wasn't broad enough for you. Here's a suggestion, which happens daily: When you see that the same information is within a thread and links already exist there, rather than start a brand new thread with the same information as the existing thread ... simply notify the volunteer Moderator to modify the thread title to better reflect the way that the thread has been broadened. If you'll look at the thread, you'll see that is actually what happened, when the other member added the link to the Atlanta Journal article ... a request was made and thread title was changed. That surely makes much more sense than starting another thread with the exact same content, but a more refined thread title.

Come on, work with us here. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder against Moderators. Drop the attitude, understand that much of the actions of the Moderators are simply work orders from your other members. They don't get paid, they have families and work and other interests and frankly when they are doing this type of cleanup, they have to give up enjoying FlyerTalk for their own benefit and knowledge.

So enough of the "if only ...." speech. I think you should take some responsibility for the situation and really, "control over your moderators."? Fact is, they are your Moderators and this is really not a cool way to treat them. So, do you get the reason why the threads were deleted (links below may not work because of the deletions)? You posted information that beat you by a day. You tried to make complicated something that had a very easy solution (modify the thread title). Polices the police? I wasn't aware we had police on FlyerTalk. And for your information, the Moderators actually have a review board for when a Moderator does have too many complaints against. Do you honestly think this is merit to fire a Moderator?

Anyway, apologies if I appear harsh in any comments regarding this. Its a case of communication. Take Moderators on as partners and you'll see a different FlyerTalk.

Thanks for allowing me my explanation.

Randy

Again?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hotel...l#post14870454

Complain:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/techn...l#post14870319



Originally Posted by wise2u
I PM'd the moderator for hotel deals about this, and I've read the thread about moderators actions here. Volunteers or not when you post guidelines and they are adhered to if they are going to delete threads with no noticable violation they need to contact the poster and tell them why.

my message to him is as follows:
Whats the deal with cancelling threads with no notice or explanation?...or for that matter no good reason!!!!
I read a deal today about a $10 AI property in puerto plata DR which I found very interesting, It caused me to remember an article with half a dozen 10-10 deals from various properties which I posted a thread about.
I come back this afternoon and both threads are GONE...with no notice or explanation. The first thread had no reason to be deleted and I am glad the OP shared the info. My thread after reading a bit in hotel deals contained a link to a story that was already in another thread. My thread title was broader and reflected that many deals that were listed in the linked story. whereas the other thread that contains the link deals only with the marriott deal, which is only a small part of the story and technically belongs in the marriott hotels section. I think you are over stepping your bounds and authority here. I am reporting this. In the future it would be nice to be notified if our threads are being moved or deleted and for what reasons!!!!

If they are volunteers then they need to be responsible for their actions and deleting posts should require an explanation. It might make them think twice before deleting posts that have valid, valuable info. I see so many stupid, off topic, and irrevelant posts that slide by, while your mods take down valuable content.

You need to get control over your moderators, if they are deleting valuable info with no notice they need to have valid reasons...I'd love to hear the reason this mod deleted these 2 threads. Who polices your police? If a mod has many complaints about his actions do you review him and if nessesary replace him? you need to!!!
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