Originally Posted by
ND Sol
HPD1 asked for my ID and I inquired if I was legally required to do so. He said yes. I asked if this was a stop and identify state and eventually he said yes (which is incorrect). I tried to hand him my card, but he insisted on state issued ID. He also said I had to legally provide him with my SSN.
This kind of BS is why I detest law enforcement. HPD1 will with almost total certainty suffer no consequences for these incorrect actions, and his supervisors, unions, and cop buddies all over the country will defend him endlessly.
What do you think would have happened if you had just said no to the state-ID or SSN request? Isn't it illegal under some federal law for them to ask for your SSN without just cause?
Who was I seeing off, what was her name, her relationship to me, her airline, her flight number, her destination, the departure time of her flight, where my car was parked.
Did anything bad happen to her or her flight? This is info I'm not sure I would have been comfortable giving, as it involved her in your exercise (which I appreciate) without her consent (unless she and you had an understanding).
But then he went further that what is permitted under Terry and took everything (and I do mean everything) out of my pockets (wallet, keys, iPod, pen and glasses) and set them on the table.
Is this legal? If not, why are you not going after HPD for this?
However, he was going to keep the camera bag and all of its contents (including the papers). Since they had already searched my bag, I asked if we could compile an inventory. We prepared duplicates and signed each other’s copy, but he would not let me check how many pictures were on my CF card.
Is this legal at all? All of the advice I have seen to photographers is to NEVER let them confiscate you equipment and especially film or flash cards. If not, why are you not going after them for it?
Thank you for doing what you did. The only way to stop this BS is to document it, determine what occurs, and then push back when it is realistic to do so.
As much as I hate TSA, it doesn't seem that they did anything blatantly illegal as they are as welcome to follow you around in the airport as you are them. But the LEOs were pigs (and I use that term intentionally and specifically to refer to those LEOs that did this) who should be terminated, stripped of their pensions, sued for everything they are worth, they and their families through out on the street, and they and their families socially branded and ostracized so badly that decent people refuse to interact with them.
That would deter this sort of behavior from piggish jack-booted goons like these HPD.