If he had lost his ID or had his wallet stolen, which does happen (ive had my wallet stolen/lost on a trip ) we would verify identity another way. If someone refuses to show ID they obviously refuse to verify their ID by other means. I didn't think I needed to say that before, but it seems Phil needs that spelled out for him, as evidenced when he said about LoganTSOs post:

"That's not the situation SATTSO described."

as it was the situation i described. Sorry, phil, for the confusion.