Not to sidetrack the thread, but a # of people have had problems w/ Paypal in the past & choose not to use it. Short of FT & perhaps eBay, most don't really need to use Paypal. The 'locked out' of the account that has been described by a few here is one of the said problems.

Plus last year those of us who paid the TATL & Charter via Paypal had the charges reversed & holds put on our accounts, because they were larger amounts & oliver2002 had to jump through hoops to convince Paypal he was not a drug dealer w/ those amounts coming into the SMDO account, which is one reason he worked w/ them this year.

Cheers.