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Old May 30, 2010 | 5:08 am
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Originally Posted by brunos
BTW, I found some errors in FTP NEV list. I flew on a 77W that was supposed to have NEV3 but got a very old (tired) version of NEV. But it had PV. Unfortuinately cannot remember registration (I think QQ).
Ooops thanks for pointed this out!
I just realized I didn't reported on this website few gaps I discovered few hours after I posted the list (the 8th of March); it was for QG, QK & QM.
FYI QQ doesn't exist

Originally Posted by brunos
Anyone can explain why some 772/77W have PV and NEV2? Is there a logic?
IMO there's no retrofit program to upgrade NEV2 in NEV3, and NEV3 seats will just be installed on new aircrafts that could be delivered before the new Affaires seat is launched.

If you look at the 77W, it's very clear. The aircrafts equipped with NEV3 are the one, non CIO, delivered from April 2007! No old 77W have been upgraded.
But that said, it's strange for QX, NF & NG delivered after April 2007 and equipped with NEV2 seats

Now pure speculation...
Question: where did they got their old NEV2 seats from? NEV2 seats are manufactured by Contour Premium Aircraft Seating but the contract seems ended. On the other hand, NEV3 seats are manufactured by B/E Aerospace. So? From 77E aircrafts upgraded in NEV3?

Surprisingly if you look at the last 77W delivered, from May 2006, 9 were for CIO routes and all equipped with NEV2 (including QX, NF & NG), while AF should have ordered NEV3 seats from B/E Aerospace.
But in parallel, more or less at the same time, 8 77E have been upgraded in NEV3 "apparently" with no logic. And since there's no new 77W CIO delivered, there's also no new 77E upgraded.
So any link?

I don't know.
It's just observations. I may be wrong
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