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Old May 20, 2010 | 8:27 pm
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number_6
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Originally Posted by harryhv
... Everything needs fixing - the redemption rates are double those of eg AA;.. bah
This isn't actually true, the plans are so different that comparison is complicated, but in general QFF is cheap for economy awards and expensive for premium awards. AAdvantage has a tiny premium for F awards over Y (as little as 20% and often under 50%), while on QFF F is 300% of the Y award cost (while J is 200%). Many Y awards are actually cheaper on QFF than Aadvantage (and this has been true for 10 years). Some J awards on AA are cheaper as QFF awards, even today, than as Aadvantage awards! I agree with the rule of thumb in valuing miles that Aadvantage miles are worth double QFF points, however that is based on the "better" award redemptions and not the "average" one. Finally, Aadvantage award availaility is dramatically worse in the past year than it has been historically; many of those "cheap" awards simply cannot be redeemed, at any price, these days. Overall I rate QFF as a better than average FF plan. The biggest flaw is being overly complex, having sometimes byzantine rules and often inconsistent or unexpected rules between awards. My pet peeve is that the Oneworld awards have different rules than Oneworld on other arilines -- I suppose Oneworld is like that! The alliance that isn't.
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