Hey now - remember this is a DL/NWA forum, and DTW is a hub, meaning quite a few people here actaully live in that city - show some sort of reserve in stating how you really feel about the "fine" city of Detroit..lol. (and believe it or not - its not quite as bad as you think. Downtown isnt anything to write home about - but many of the suburbs are quite nice seeing as how the area has no strong downtown to attract people away).