crhptic, yes, you've hit my desire on the head.

thank you MarkXS...loads of info there and yes, I am thinking of where I can start building more miles and am curious about the LH experience since I know I can fly them JFK-LHR direct. I have some OnePass miles, but nothing extraordinary.

I don't think I've ever done an AA 777, but think I'm admittedly sour on AA's domestic service b/c I feel the service has just gone downhill.

As far as what to expect in Y, I flew VA one time in Y and it was fab, but that was before I was part of any FF club and started analyzing any of this.

My thanks to you all for giving me food for thought. I'm trying to learn to make smarter choices with my flying these days, so I thought I'd come to the Pros.!