Originally posted by Empress:
Full fare J for YYZ-YVR is $9944 CDN!!!
Something more puzzling, they have a F class fare for YYZ-HKG for around $20000. Is that why they call it Executive First -- you can either pay executive class or first class fare but you get the same service. I wonder if someone is asking for that fare, whether the agent will sell it to them?
The following is an example of a fare display

YVR-HKG)
The CAD 4980 J fare is for business class (YVR-HKG)Via the Pacific Ocean (only travel agents with proper display can see this fact)
The CAD 13,682 J fare is for business class via the Atlantic Ocean (YVR-LHR-HKG-LHR-YVR)
[notice that if you get an around the world fare, it is a lot less] (notice that for these kind of full fares, travel can be on multiple carriers)
Since Air Canada does not offer real first class (ie. first class on a 3 class aircraft), you will always get the J fares when flying Executive First.
The F fares are published for travel on third carriers. For example, if I fly the following routing:
YVR-SFO AC J
SFO-HKG SQ/UA First class
HKG-SFO SQ/UA First class
SFO-YVR AC J
and I buy the ticket from AC, it would cost CAD 7930 (fare basis: F) (Since the MPM via SFO has been exceeded, a futher 5% surcharge applies)
Fares for VANCOUVER, BC, CANAD (YVR) to HONG KONG, HONG KONG (HKG)
Fares applicable: 21 January, 2001 through 21 January, 2001
Select Fare Type One Way Price
(CAD) Round Trip Price
(CAD) Airline
HLXE1
2021.00 AC
HLXAPACO 1100.00 N/A AC
HLXEOW 1206.00 2412.00 AC
Y2 1808.00 3616.00 AC
J 2490.00 4980.00 AC
F 3965.00 7930.00 AC
Y 5770.00 11540.00 AC
J 6841.00 13682.00 AC
F 10232.00 20464.00 AC
The Y, J and F fares above CAD 10,000 (round trip basis) are also known as "YY" fares and can apply to multiple carriers and for travel on non-traditional routings.
The following are sample fare calculations for both the CAD 4980 and CAD 13682 J fares(in CAD and not NUC without "Q" surcharges and taxes for simplicity reasons)
(Via Atlantic)
YVR AC (AT) LON CX HKG R6481.00J LH /X FRA AC(AT) YVR R6481.00J TOTAL CAD 13682.00
(Via Pacific [traditional routing])
YVR AC {PA) HKG R2490.00J AC (PA)YVR R2490.00J TOTAL CAD 4980.00
(AT) = VIA ATLANTIC OCEAN
(PA) = VIA PACIFIC OCEAN
[This message has been edited by daniellam (edited 01-21-2001).]
[This message has been edited by daniellam (edited 01-21-2001).]