If I check constantly at the furthest out--133? days, I can usually get Bus Class for the minimum, last year it was 100,000 for a flight to FCO I'm taking in 3 weeks; the year before it was 90,000. I notice that on CO coach seats to FCO can be had for as low as 20,000 miles. So, I have a CO World Master card now and Amex-Delta is in run-off.