Originally Posted by
TSORon
No Jim.
Why do you keep using the word "Jim" in your post, Ron?
I’m saying that there is intelligence that a shoe bomb is still considered a viable method of introducing an explosive device on to an aircraft by those wishing to do us harm. You don’t have to believe that, and I suspect you wont, but there you have it.
Considered by whom, Ron? By those, like you, incapable of ignoring or acknowledging the facts about shoe bombs?
There was an attempt Jim. Richard Reid.
And not one attempt since, in any country anywhere, regardless of what shoe screening regime is in place. A fact that conclusively demonstrates that any "risk" from shoe bombs is so infinitesimal as to be effectively nonexistent. And a fact you remain incapable of addressing.
9/11 targeted US airlines, with US citizens on board, and buildings in the USA. Richard Reid targeted a US airline with US citizens on board. Bojinka targeted aircraft flying to the USA. The London Liquid Bomb plot targeted aircraft flying to the USA. Do you see a theme here jim?
The only theme here is your cherry-picking incidents involving US flights and ignoring incidents on other nations' carriers, Ron. And it remains an incontrovertible fact that between Reid and August 2006 there were no attempts at a shoe bombing (your insinuations to the contrary in an earlier post notwithstanding) in the US, nor are there shoe bombings taking place anywhere else that does not have the mandatory shoe carnival invented by TSA's bedwetters. (And the folks behind the "liquid bomb plot" did not have airplane tickets or passports, let alone imaginary liquid explosives, so their plot was purely an aspirational one, not an imminent threat that actually endangered anyone of any nationality.)
And, Ron, why do you keep typing "jim" in your responses?
Opinions vary Jim. You will note that I try to keep my opinions to myself, and only occasionally slip. You and others here prefer opinions to fact.
And yet we're the ones with actual facts on our sides, and you're the one who's incapable of addressing them with honest answers. So one more time, Ron, you great big tough security professional (TM) at an airport that cannot be named:
Do you deny that no planes were brought down in the US by shoe bombs before the shoe carnival was made mandatory in August 2006?
Do you deny that no planes are being brought down in other countries that don't have a shoe carnival?
Yes or no answers, Ron. Come on. I know you can do it.