Totally agree Jumbodriver.

VS loads are being somewhat held up Virgin Holiday bookings, which of course are very low yields.

I think this winter will be tough in the leisure market more so than last winter, as the economic uncertainity/ possible job losses had not enetered the general publics' thoughts when booking a winter break this time last year. This is completely different this time around. Coupled with no confident return in business traffic leaves a difficult winter ahead for airlines.