Originally Posted by bagobsessive

I know this will open a 'can-of-worms' because there is so much (justified) enthusiasm for B&R, and I really like the B&R bags in general and have an older 18" upright which is still in great shape and used a lot ......

but for a straight out rolling computer bag, the B&R versions including the new ones (eg., BR306X) with the handle and 'other bag handle gripper" on the back basically wastes space because you have a bag that is overall as deep as the depth including the handles yet the space - maybe 1 to 1.25" inbetween the handles and alongside them is unusable because it is on the outside of the bag and so you can't put something in it.

The Vict Architecture 2.0 'uses' this space - or the equivalent of it in a bag of the roughly same depth with two very clever hanging pockets at the back alongside the handles and which contain 1-1.25" deep packing cubes - and you can also use the similar space inbetween the handles (because it is inside the bag) - and I frequently do use it by putting extra socks, underwear in it. This works of course just because the handles ARE inside the bag and the space alongside and inside the handles can be used.

The outside handles also make for more 'clutter' and a less smooth outside on the bag (more to get caught on?)- but this is much more arguable of course.

There - I've said it - now disagree.