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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 1:59 pm
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Originally Posted by danielonn
In Israel before you enter the TLV airport you are stopped at a car search booth where you open your trunk and say where you are coming from this is a good start to have this before entering the airport.
Besides the constitutional issues this raises, how does this enhance security anywhere but the airport? Instead of blowing up the car at the airport, a terrorist will now head to the local mall on a busy Saturday or a concert venue or the big convention center holding the annual conference of some large group.

That is what drives me nuts about security these days. We only focus on the airports, as though they are the only venues in which terror can be triggered.

Then you go through a questioning about the purpose of your trip where you packed your bags and if they were with you at all times. They also ask to see your ID and Ticket info. After this your carry on luggage is tagged and scanned before being placed into the machine. You then proceed to the checkin counter to check your bags or go through security if you only have cabin luggage etc.
The purpose of my trip is nobody's business. No one's. It is irrelevant to security and the answer does nothing to enhance that security.

As for where I packed my bags and if they were with me at all times, didn't we discontinue that a while back. It was meaningless. No one is going to say, "Oh, I left my bags unattended for an hour while I had a bite to eat and used the bathroom." They know that means they won't make their flight. Pointless questions.

At security you do not need to remove your shoes and other items and only your bags are checked. You can have a passport control for international flights where nationals go to one lines and visitors go to the next line where they ask the purpose of the trip and you turn in your Visa etc at this point. They swipe your passport to verify exit out of the USA .
Why does the U.S. need to verify that I am leaving the country? How does that enhance security at all? What threat am I to the U.S. if I am leaving the country?

Before departure agents with laptops verify international travelers and randomly select passengers for one quick screening before boarding.
Why? Were they not competent enough in the first screening? And, if not, why is anyone allowed in the sterile area?

Possibly having screening machines built into the baggage carousels before heading to the claim to double check that all is well.
Again, was their a competence gap in the initial screening of baggage? If the TSA or baggage handlers slipped something into my bag, there is a bigger problem that needs to be addressed than holding up my baggage.

And how about an exit security checkpoint where bags are scanned and people walk through without taking off their shoes just a quick search to make sure nothing illegal was added from the time passengers boarded to the time they arrived. You never know what happens.
My God. You are kidding, right? I am off the plane which has arrived safely and before I can continue to the shuttle or rental car area I have to be searched again because I might have had something slipped to me either in the sterile area of my departing airport or on a flight? That presumes that something got by the screeners.

What in the hell could possibly be slipped to me in flight or at the departing airport that I could not just as easily be handed or purchased once I left the airport after my flight?

For those selected for additional screening a SSS area is setup to handle this.
Don't we have this already?

Any ideas on this plan to make America safer? I know this is a dream but if passengers showed up earlier before a flight to be safe then it is worth it.
Wonderful. Now instead of showing up two hours before my 45 minute flight, I have to show up 3-4 hours to answer ridiculous questions and undergo "additional screening" so that people feel better about flying.

And that doesn't even account for the additional post flight screening I will need to endure under your plan.

My 45 minute trip from PHX to LAS has now turned into a four-plus hour ordeal.

No thanks.
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