Hi everyone - regarding the NY Times Hilton - it can indeed be a zoo at times with huge groups everywhere, with more than one huge group at a time. The best thing this hotel has going for it is its location. Having stayed in both the "regular," "executive" and Hilton Club rooms, I would recommend either the NY Times Square Hilton or the very brand new West 57th Hilton Street by Hilton Club. I left a lengthy, mostly favorable review, on the latter under the 57th Hilton Street by Hilton Club thread. BTW, it has its own lounge on the 2nd floor with a huge outdoor patio. Food and drinks are superior to what you get at the NY Hilton Club. Expensive.