Originally Posted by
SHADOW266
Let me take a stab at this from my point of view:
9/11 was successful because the hijackers were very familiar with the security systems, measures, and procedures in place at the time. Now, you are asking someone who plays a small part in an overall system for specific measures in place to counter such a threat from happening again (no offense Bart).
I guess I could just say, if you have to ask, you don't know. Most of the measures in place after 9/11 work perfectly fine without you armchair quarterbacking.
Tell you what... try walking into you local bank and ask them what their security measures are to prevent a robbery. See what kind of information you glean from the teller.
The 9/11 hijackings were successful because the hijackers knew that once aboard, they would face no reistance, pursuant to airline policy at the time. NOT because of lax gate security.
The "measures" you so willingly endorse WOULDN'T HAVE PREVENTED 9/11.
TSA predicates their Kabuki theatre on a loophole that wasn't exploited.
Originally Posted by
law dawg
The only other weapon of note is the ax, which is a bit unwieldy in CQC. Hand to hand against a knife is mostly a myth unless the person has a lot of training, the willingness and ability to kill (don't screw around - take the hit and close in and kill the guy. You're going to get stabbed, the only question is how many times) and the physical ability to do so.
Close, but no cigar. I wasn't referring to the ax.
Originally Posted by
law dawg
That's not a US decision. It's up to the foreign country in question. Most won't go for it since they don't recognize FFDOs as LEOs.
I didn't say it was a US decision. The reality is this - armed security teams are on board US flag ships, and when their ships arrive in foreign port, it is often against the law of that port state. Those individuals aren't LEO's either, however, accommodations have been reached with a number of port states.
All it takes is people responding rationally to a threat. Which is, of course, why we are in the state we're in. Rational thinking seems to be an endangered species when it comes to countering the terrorist threat.