Originally Posted by
halls120
I'm very serious. 9/11 was successful because of the mindset and policies of airlines at that time.
Could a dedicated group of terrorists make it through a cabin crew today? Sure. The difference is, the pilots aren't going to open the door and surrender command of the airplane. And as Flight 93 demonstrated, once the passengers realize what's in store for them, they aren't going sit there passively.
93 had the luxury of the things I was saying that I wouldn't allow - time and opportunity to plan and work together. Terrorists learn lessons too. Don't give the pax the time to do so, making the only ones to respond loners or couple of people at a time instead of a large group, which are easy pickings for armed, trained teams.
And the door has nothing to do with TSA's gate security.
Correct. TSA should be trying to 1) keep weapons off the plane and 2) be looking for those that would wield them. Once the plane takes off, the TSA is of no value, unless FAMs are on board.
I disagree, but the way you describe your team, they would have been able to outwit TSA. Which is the point of this discussion, not whether Delta Force can successfully hijack an airliner. They can. That isn't the point. The point of this discussion is - does TSA bring anything to the table that their predecessors did not.
No, the point of the discussion is I responded to a comment of yours about the effectiveness of crew resistance. I'd say not very, excepting some FFDOs.
Since you have a greater chance of encountering a FFDO than an FAM on any given flight, I'd say the odds of your success are rather low.
Not internationally. 0% chance for FFDO.