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Old May 25, 2009 | 7:41 pm
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law dawg
 
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Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
If you read through the legal cites on the website I referenced, the Border Patrol doing this is different than a garden variety cop doing it. In this case, it's clearly a roving border patrol checkpoint. The stop and subsequent investigation has very strict reasonable suspicion and probable cause criteria attached to it.
It is not a roving checkpoint. It's a roving vehicle stop. I can't make that more clear. A roving vehicle stop requires reasonable suspicion to make. A roving checkpoint is a non-permanent checkpoint that is put up on occasion but that operates in all other aspects like a checkpoint. IOW, no cause is required to make a vehicle stop. I've worked both permanent and temporary checkpoints. I've also done traffic stops. They are markedly different.

A cop making a traffic stop generally does so with PC to believe a crime has been committed - a traffic violation or similar. As the USBP doesn't enforce those laws they are making, in effect, a forced detention (as in Terry Stop). That requires reasonable suspicion.
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