What Thailand is losing out on is first timers, it has been coupled with India and put in the too hard basket. My crew who know how to get around, and speak the language, couldn't care less. regards bkkrop[/QUOTE]

Just wonder WHY people same you who come from the most fantastic and diverse country in the world are so attached to Thailand. You will get anytime more real quality and comfort in any place of Australia. From snorkeling to wintersports and trekking you have it all. So WHY if not for the perceived servility of Thai (women) should we seek for problems?

Many "long timers" of Thailand are fed up by now too.