Originally Posted by PhoenixRev

Probably not. Like you (and me), they have neither the money nor the time luxury to push a case from trial court up to the Supreme Court.

Be that as it may, I think we on this forum are doing much more than average people, many of whom couldn't care less if their rights were being violated or taken away as long as they can continue to have their lattes, SUVs or hybrids, smartphones, and "American Idol." Sadly, I am not surprised.

Does anyone remember Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas retorting to people complaining about their civil rights being trampled on that civil right are no good if you are dead? (I heard he tired quickly from dancing on Patrick Henry's grave.)

That is tough to compete against when people care more about access to bottled water and sushi rolls than their rights.