I NEVER take points, that's how I know it's fruadulent when they say that I did. I am very polite but very clear about this when talking to management. I even pull up my MW Account Activity online and show them - look ....... I DON'T take points. When with the kids, I do sodas and ice cream. When it's myself and/or hubby, we do cheese and crackers and soda. It's fun to see what Cheese and Crackers constitutes at some hotels compared to others. Two of the best, Curacao and JW San Fran.