So by the same theory of yours, I can view the harbour back off from another 5000m with a binoculors and argue that the view is better because I can see some "signs" better? The Shang does not have a better view because of it's position is further away. Simple as that. Almost everyone else thinks Pen & IC has the best harbour views in Hong Kong. It's what these 2 hotels are famous for.

I have already stated my opinion, it's being more closer, upfront, clearer and hence better. And since you think I am talking nonsence and the feeling is mutual, then we should not continue this debate because it will be a waste of both our time and you may have a lot of time to troll these forums but I don't. Please continue to believe what you want to believe then. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. Just don't expect me to agree to your silly theory that Shang Kowloon harbor view is better and waste more time to engage in this meaningless debate. It almost like arguing with someone who believes the earth is flat.