kyklin ~ Just to clear that up, the problem UA is having is not necessarily because their pilots are "inexperienced" (they're not a bunch of 25 year old pilots), but with the 747's on long international routes with two crews, the each pilot would only get to take off and land once or twice every few months, meaning that they just weren't doing it enough to maintain proficiency. UA is going to be doing more simulator training to make up for this shortcoming.