Originally Posted by
stevenshev
Let's put it this way. I've flown lots of J and a bit of F on other people's dimes in the past few years.
I have not and will not ever pay for J out of pocket. I will and have (routinely) paid for F. J is a poor relative value for money equation to F.
I disagree. The Y and J are worlds apart in terms of hard and soft product (vastly more space, in-seat power, real food, much better service, lounge access). F, OTOH, is really just relatively minor upgrades of these (horizontal vs flat beds (maybe)), better food, better service, better lounge), but commands a similar price premium over J, as J does over Y.